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&lt;P&gt;In the &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-8&gt;LEX&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-9&gt;ATCT&lt;/SPAN&gt; air traffic accident package at &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;A href="http://data.gannettnewsservice.com/comair/356224.pdf"&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;http://data.gannettnewsservice.com/comair/356224.pdf&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;we see the &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-10&gt;FAA's&lt;/SPAN&gt; transcripts of the &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-11&gt;ATC&lt;/SPAN&gt; tapes. Both the tower tapes and the crash crew notifications are located at the bottom of this &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-12&gt;pdf&lt;/SPAN&gt; document. &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;You can see that &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-13&gt;Comair&lt;/SPAN&gt; was cleared for takeoff at 1005:17 &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-14&gt;Comair&lt;/SPAN&gt; acknowledged the clearance at 1005:21 &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Eagle Flight 882 (&lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-15&gt;EGF&lt;/SPAN&gt;882), the previous departure, acknowledged a frequency change to center (&lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-16&gt;ZID&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-17&gt;LEX&lt;/SPAN&gt;) at 1005:40&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;That is the time that &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-18&gt;Comair&lt;/SPAN&gt; was at the departure end of the wrong runway (&lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-19&gt;RW&lt;/SPAN&gt;26) and it was too late to intervene to save any body's lives. &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;CD said he turned to do the traffic count and heard the crash and notified the Fire Dept. about the crash, but the transcript shows he pulled the hook at 1007:27, that is 10 seconds short of two minutes after the crash. &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;He wasn't watching &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-21&gt;Comair&lt;/SPAN&gt; when he was taking off on the wrong runway because he was talking to &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-22&gt;EGF&lt;/SPAN&gt;882. &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-23&gt;ZID&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-24&gt;LEX&lt;/SPAN&gt; should have been talking to &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-25&gt;EGF&lt;/SPAN&gt;882 instead of CD as &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-26&gt;ARTCC&lt;/SPAN&gt; was designated to take over approach control duties when &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-27&gt;LEX&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-28&gt;ATCT&lt;/SPAN&gt; was manned with only one controller. &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Previously, we have been told that CD, the controller on duty during the accident, originally stated that he saw &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-29&gt;Comair&lt;/SPAN&gt; heading for &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-30&gt;RW&lt;/SPAN&gt;22 after he cleared him for takeoff, then turned his back. We have also been told that he changed his testimony some 30 minutes later to say he never saw &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-31&gt;Comair&lt;/SPAN&gt;. The statements on this document say something completely different.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;In this personnel statement (FAA Form 8020-26), CD states “I cleared him for takeoff around 1006Z and watched him take &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-32&gt;RW&lt;/SPAN&gt;22” He is saying he saw &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-33&gt;Comair&lt;/SPAN&gt; on the active runway and far away from the approach end of &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-34&gt;RW&lt;/SPAN&gt;26 which he departed from.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;His supplemental statement, dated the same day, he says “After the review of my original personnel statement, I did not watch Com191 take RY22. I saw Com191’s position on &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-36&gt;twy&lt;/SPAN&gt; A, heading for RWY22. I then cleared Com191 for takeoff. I saw Com191’s lights turning towards RWY22. I turned around to do the traffic count, heard a crash, and saw a fireball west of the airport.”&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;When he says he saw Com191 turning towards &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-37&gt;RW&lt;/SPAN&gt;22, he hadn't crossed &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-38&gt;RW&lt;/SPAN&gt;26 and never did cross that runway.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;These two statements are dated the same day, but have no time for the statements. We don’t have a clue how long it took CD to change his mind. Originally, I thought he made these statements to investigators, but I have had to make these statements myself after an incident and can tell you that you are left alone and given all the time you want to make your statement.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;In this package, CD signed a third supplemental personnel statement on 9-6-06, some 10 days later, stating, “this information corrects information in the header of my previous statement” But he &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-39&gt;doesn&lt;/SPAN&gt;’t tell us WHICH statement he is correcting.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;So CD lied in his original statement about seeing the stricken aircraft on the active runway. Then he&amp;nbsp;changed his statement, but still lied about turning to do the traffic count, because he was dealing with &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-40&gt;EGF&lt;/SPAN&gt;882 when he told us he turned to do the traffic count.&amp;nbsp; He doesn't mention that he waited just short of two minutes before he pulled the crash phone.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;This information will be forwarded to Congressman Ben Chandler, Delta safety dept., the family members of &lt;SPAN class=mark id=misspell-41&gt;Comair&lt;/SPAN&gt;191, and to the Lexington press.&lt;/P&gt;
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